the runuo forum admins do more harm to the community than good? they delete any post that mentions another shard. I understand they want people to play hybrid/demise, but they need to seperate the forums. The runuo stuff needs to be people that are not affilitated with their shards, other wise it seems to me they are just using the site to keep them from having to do any work by milking everyone else's hard work. take my shard for instance, the guy who designed it asked for the login info so he could come back and check it out..I said "check your pm's" and it was deleted..when I asked the admin what the problem was, here is the conversation.
I had posted another thread in their "starbucks section" a section described as "an unmoderated forum where you are free to discuss what you want to" and even though it was a respectful post questioning the reasoning behind the removal, it was also removed.
Notice also that she never once tells me exactly what rules were violated (there were none because as we were going back and forth i was reading them)
sorry its so long. her posts are in bold.

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Countessa, 54 minutes ago ReportReply
Dan Buro
Wanderer
why are you being such a bitch about it? especially when 2 posts up there is an advertisement for a shard you have left 3 times?
Dan Buro, 53 minutes ago ReportReply
Dan Buro
Wanderer
instead of explaining whats wrong?

Dan Buro, 53 minutes ago ReportReply
Countessa
Administrator
If there is a post that violates the rules, you are welcome to report it. All posts have a report tab.
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Countessa, 52 minutes ago ReportReply
Dan Buro
Wanderer
I understand that, but I would rather build the community than funnel it all towards demise/hybrid...Maybe you should look into doing the same. I do not need to email ryan, I will speak to him by phone later on. So again exactly what rule was broken by the guy asking for shard info and my response of "check your pm's"?
Dan Buro, 42 minutes ago ReportReply
Dan Buro
Wanderer
I also see that you have now removed my post from starbucks... which states at the top "Unmoderated forum for off-topic banter, screen shots, chit-chat and things of this nature. Flames are permitted, and you can pretty much do nearly anything within reason. No advertisements."

so now you have removed a post from an unmoderated forum for violating exactly what rules?
Dan Buro, 39 minutes ago ReportReply
Countessa
Administrator
Dan you are not promoting your site and repeatedly posting check your pms is not needed. Again, if you dont like the way the forum is run, email Ryan. I don't suggest phoning him. He has enough stuff going on IRL without a call from you because I removed a post of yours.
As for me being a 'bitch'. I get reports about posts, I check them out and take action if they violate the forum rules and guidelines or forum code of conduct. Occasionally I even get to read the forums myself.
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Countessa, 33 minutes ago ReportReply
Dan Buro
Wanderer
And im calling bullshit, you still havent quoted what rule I broke, I see check your pm's alot on here, so is that against the rules? the guy asked for the info of the shard, i didnt post it for anyone to see, just told him to check his pm. The only other time I said it was when Archaic (the guy who built the shard wanted to take a look at it). you deleted his post and my post again telling him to check his pm. And again I ask, why was a post in an unmoderated forum moderated? I checked your code of conduct and rules and again no rule was broken. And thats not the only reason I was calling ryan, we happened to serve in the army together and i had other stuff to talk with him about. I suggest either update the rules or quit making up your own.
Dan Buro, 27 minutes ago ReportReply
Countessa
Administrator
Actually I'm only checking them because of you today. That and I happen to be online printing off poo I need for my day.
I'm not making up any rules.
I don't care why you are calling Ryan as long as you are not bothering him merely for some petty forum rage bullshit.
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Countessa, 19 minutes ago ReportReply
Dan Buro
Wanderer
Of course it is, and without ever quoting a rule that was broken. typical nazism.....and its not petty that someone can ignore the rules and guidelines that are posted and pursue their own agenda and hide behind an "admin" title..some people dont roll over for some petty forum dictator, I asked for a rule that was broken, you havent provided one..in fact you have danced around it. quick what is the name of my shard? you cant tell me because I havent said it, whats the log in? you cant tell me because I havent said it..so by your definition of advertisment anyone that says the word shard must be advertising..see what I am saying? So again I ask, what rule did I brerak by saying "check your pm's" weeks apart to 2 different people who inquired about a shard someone else posted for everyone? And second what rule did I break by posting a complaint in an UNMODERATED forum? you cannot answer either so you take the "this conversation is over route". heres a hint...the shard isnt called "zombielanduo"

"the runuo forum admins do more harm to the community than good?" In some regards yes though I don't know if it's the runuo admins or forum admins fault. I blame the community itself more for being too accepting at times. I relevance to pre expansion UO the community as a whole has been to subordinate in my personal belief. I hold that era as the benchmark of what a UO emulator should have first gotten correct. It's been years and hasn't happened and might not likely ever actually happen unless the developers take a stance to work towards the goal which I'm uncertain the proper capable talent with the know how is on board to do so accordingly.

The weaken, clumsy, feeble mind spell interrupt combo is the single most detrimental aspect to that era's accuracy. While technically feasible to do so in that time frame and I'm entirely fine with that it didn't actually take place in a 1 on 1 situation and wasn't even feasible without the use of last target, arm, and disarm which was considered a 3rd party exploit during the time and even the ones using it wouldn't have risked being that obvious on any kind of consistency basis due to how obvious it would have made it that they were cheating not that it wasn't a little obvious regardless, but that would have been glaringly so the case much like attacking a hidden player with UO Extreme which most of the UOE user's were smart enough not to be so stupid to do.

Try arming and disarming a weapon 3 times manually without a macro and targeting a player manually 3 times who's trying to avoid you from doing so easily to interrupt them from casting a spell. In fact try just manually disarming your weapon casting a spell and manually casting one of those debuffs to interrupt a players greater heal, energy bolt, or explosion spell starting with greater heal since that's what that gay little trick is most widely used to accomplish and try doing it against a player using a macro to automatically disarm his weapon when he casts and also has a target self macro. See how successful you can be on a regular basis in a duel against a player using arm disarm last target macro's without you using them and you'll get the picture.

This why in early UO era prior to expansion players used the spell curse not only was it more mana efficient and meditation wasn't always a in game skill, but more important it combined all 3 debuffs at once so they didn't have to cast each individually which is a BIG deal when you have to manually arm/disarm/target when you have to cast a spell and re-equip your your weapon after while also simultaneously having to deal with playing against other players that used 3rd party tools cheats which enabled them to use last target, arm, and disarm which btw arm/disarm was superior with UOE it didn't have a 1 second per item equip/unequip delay like the OSI version it was like instant hit for arm/disarm essentially.

I'd love to see the pre expansion UO game play feel recreated without the stupidly abusive debuff interrupt abusing, but can it happen and can they get a lot of the other equally fun and awesome essential aspects that made it great. Stealing is just a outright joke post hiding nerf stealth implementation which also made alchemy a lot less cool and relevant because purple potions no longer had the same high demand and really neither did heal potions to some extent those were sometimes life savers if you had your garlic jacked by a thief and they were fiddling everywhere both in town and out of town you were never safe from that.

UOE made stealing a lot more cool and useful too it kept containers open no matter how far away a player went until you closed it yourself very handy it also let you use a axe inventory macro that would on client side remove the graphic for a item to get around players hiding small pouches behind mage books and drobes usually multiples of them making it nearly impossible to snoop those pouches from them in the first place without it and additional would snoop again on failure another essential and great thief tool.

There was never a dull moment back then in UO because anything could and would happen on a whim so you always had to be on your guard and it didn't matter if it was in or out of town. Players could gate mobs back then a poison elemental to town on a afk player could kill them in no time and if you weren't a friend of that player and maybe even if you were depending on the level of the friendship would you have called the guards or would you have let them die and looted their body and banked that poo. UO is so pussy amounts of timid compared to retro UO during it's infancy stages of the game. Too many issues kill the game play I recall loved and enjoy about my UO youth primary the early era inaccuracy that don't no private server has managed to correct and address not a damn one of them it pains me to see how bad the private servers are like in comparison to the game during it's infancy due to the game play inaccuracy in regards to the way the game was like and was played like back then.